The Great Tulip Debate


So I've been laying low lately with a number of things going on in the other parts of my life and I'm noticing all the "Save the Tulip" campaigns.

Really folks?  Do you have nothing better to do than worry about the logo an airline?  Sure, the UA logo is unique, but it's dated and the use of primary colors reminds me of something I'd expect of my nephews.

And yes, I do like the CO logo better.  I think it does a far better job describing the company -- a global entity that connects people and destinations.   What does the tulip demonstrate?

But, in all seriousness, it's an airline folks.   It's a company, it has no emotions and neither should you towards it.  It's one thing to form an allegiance to a company for loyalty, but it's a completely different beast when you take it personally when it decides to make a change you don't like.

And to the UA folks, I would seriously get ready for some serious change, this isn't going to be the UA you're used to.


Well, I still like the tulip. It demonstrates United--at least it has for the last three decades. Far better than a generic globe that other airlines use as well and a crappy font. ;)

Do you think tri-cabin First Class will be added to CO aircraft?

Fozz May 28, 2010 at 01:11 am

@Matthew: Of course you do. ;) As for tri-cabin, I doubt we'll see it on any more aircraft. Very few markets can truly sustain tri-cabin service financially. If it sticks around, and i'm not making any calls to if it will or not, I suspect it will be limited to markets like NRT, LHR, SYD, FRA, and DXB.

CO serves a lot more secondary markets where there isn't much premium cabin demand (DUB, SNN, LIS, MAD to name a few) which is why they are successful with 16-seat J cabins on those routes.

HunterSFO May 28, 2010 at 06:48 pm

@fozz - There's lots of CO things I'm hoping to see in the new United - like PDB of choice on every flight, a deli plate on short flights instead of "snack mix bags", soup and sandwich on redeyes, SWU good on all fare buckets, aircraft that arent 30 years old, DirecTV, decent website that works, and 110 volt power outlets.

If we get the "good things" from CO I can live without certain things like crazy routing rules. I hope the hot nuts and 3-cabin aircraft stay though - at least in the markets you mentioned (and p.s.)

I have come to grips with the fact that the generous compensation may go away - unless those folks can produce convivcivg numbers that show the cost is worth it...

kd5mdk May 30, 2010 at 08:09 pm

I don't think there's any way that 3 cabin disappears. It's certainly fair to believe that 2 operators is enough, but I think the PR advantages to AA of being the only 3 cabin United States based carrier would be too high.

Fozz May 30, 2010 at 11:02 pm

@HunterSFO I do agree that I hope the good things of each stay. In UA's defense, since the removal of the 737s, most of UAs planes are 20 years or less in age. The oldest planes are the 757s and with the recent refurbishments have helped a lot. I do hope PS stays as I use that pretty heavily.

@km5mdk: The real thing about three cabin is if the money is there. The one thing I do know about CO is that they won't do something that for the purposes of their ego. And what's to say that if the new UA dropped it that AA wouldn't follow?